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There are a few things I feel I need to say regarding the scans that I share on this journal.

Up until now all my posts have been public and open with no restrictions or rules.


However, I have been thinking that I should explain more about what my feelings and expectations are on sharing.

I have no plans to:
  • friends lock my posts
  • friends lock my journal
  • stop scanning
  • stop buying magazines and photos
  • make a big list of rules
  • demand credit
  • demand comment
  • ask that my scans not be used for graphics
  • demand that my scans not be reposted

I have no plans to stop sharing freely.

But there are a few things I need to address.

What does upset me is when people demand credit for graphics they are sharing but don't give links, information or credit to where the original images that they used can be found. If crediting is important to you, then it should be as important to give it as well as receive it. There's no reason that everyone shouldn't be able to find the original scans for the images used, especially if they are not locked away.

I also know my scans are being reposted all over the net, in many fandoms and languages. This is great and spreading the NEWS love but it is frustrating and disappointing when these same images are reposted back to this fandom where they have already been shared, with a claim for credit by the reposter. In some cases the original names for the images are still in the file names, as well as other embedded information.

Then there are those who put their own watermarks on the scans before reposting them on their own blogs. I believe that most watermarks are simply defacing the picture, and since none of us are the owner of the original image, we don't actually have that right. If you don't want people seeing what the whole image looks like, then don't post them, especially when you've just taken them from someone else's journal. If you don't want to share them intact, just point others where they can find them.

Basically, it all comes back to the issue of claiming credit for yourself on the back of work done by others. Again, I'm not asking or demanding credit, but I also do not want to see others taking credit for my work either.

And there is a certain amount of time and effort that goes into scanning and editing images.

Just a few examples of some recent scans posted here ... a few 'Before' and 'After' images.








So you can see that generally, it's pretty easy for me, and others, to pick which are my scans.

As I said above, this post is not about me changing anything that I'm currently doing, it's just about sharing my thoughts about sharing. I want the gorgeous pictures of the lovely NEWS members spread far and wide, without ugly watermarks, and without boomeranging back to me with someone else's name on them.

Thanks for reading and letting me get a few things off my chest.

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**UPDATE** Dec 1 2009

Just as an example of what I've been talking about above ... below is an image posted by a user on a forum for my scans of the Yamapi solo concert pamphlet which I posted less than a handful of days ago.

As you might be able to see, not only are these my scans but this person hasn't even attempted to change the names of the pictures, only stopping long enough to make a contact sheet and add their own credit to it.




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zephkun
Nov. 18th, 2009 02:06 pm (UTC)
Respect begets respect.
Some people are just...difficult to deal with. I remember that we talked about this one time before though you might no longer remember... Was it you or Cheryl? Erm, memory fail.

Like you, I don't really care if I'm not given credit for anything but someone else taking credit for what you did is just out of line and very, very rude. This thing will never stop, I guess. But it's good to air out your feelings in public. I hope that those who read this will get attacked by their conscience even for just a teeny bit and that those who see and those 'stolen' images will be vigilant and help point out those other people's wrongs.

I just noticed that I've yet to add you. May I add you now?
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 05:49 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

And yes, I do remember that conversation ... XD And I'm still here!
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daelite
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:11 pm (UTC)
I really respect your determination to keep things public. Hopefully people can be kind enough back to you in the future! Please stay well!
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 05:50 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
gigabytexx
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:24 pm (UTC)
i'm soooooo agree with what you have said.
eventhough we are all not own NewS or other popular people, but demanding credit from someone's work is.... >___< that's stealing -_-

that's why previously i said that i love your scans and i always wait YOUR scanned version, because i will only take the scans from you. some people scan 2 pages separately, yours not. you have already edit them and make it smooth. i really like it (because sometimes i'm too lazy to play with my photoshop -_-)

that almost the same as making icons, because you're not just scan them, you also edit them, even a little. i guess people should appreciate with what you're doing, and they actually should giving you credit too ne, because you spend your money to buy the magz and not bother to scan them =___=

i hope these kind of things will stop (well, i dont think so =___=a but i hope after you say this, people will have more respect and not claiming ur scans as their own work!)

Cheers! hearts
zaziemuto
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:55 pm (UTC)
gigabytexx already said what I wanted to xDDD
I am really glad that you scan the magazines~ :33
thank you
*sends you a lot of love*
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weesachan
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:50 pm (UTC)
I appreciate the work that you do! ^_^ I love looking at your scans. I usually don't save any of the images, unless I know that I won't be able to get the original in my hands. It is always a nice preview before I go to Japan!

I don't understand the whole credit thing to begin with. Just because you are able to post pictures online doesn't mean that you are entitled to receive credit. If credit is given, it should be to the photographer or magazine. I am glad that you are not like some people!! It does get annoying and I totally undestand your point! You do put a lot of effort in what you do and people should not take advantage of that.

inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 05:54 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

Yup, I want people to see the pretty pictures because, there's little enough of NEWS these days as it is ... but we don't own any of it, and it's even worse when you want to get credit when all you did is find it on the net somewhere else.

Most of the credit goes to the gorgeous boys in the photos themselves, or maybe the two people who got together and mixed DNA for such a first rate outcome! XD
chanjuu
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:24 pm (UTC)
I really respect for what you said. And i agree too. I mean you are not even asking for credit and that should be enough to make people feel guilty when they are using your scans. I really hope people are more kind.
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 05:55 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

Unfortunately, the people who are thoughtful and considerate are the ones who never need rules to be reminded of that.
watchful21
Nov. 18th, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
The 'before and after' photos are what sets your scans apart from anyone else. I've always said your scans are my favorite and this is the proof! To tell you the truth, it really angers me to see other people taking credit for your work. I hope in the future everyone is more respectful of your scans, whether they take it straight from your LJ into theirs, or manipulate them into headers, icons, or whatever else. Maybe this "word from our sponsor"(or a condensed version) needs to be translated into several other languages??
smulz
Nov. 25th, 2009 11:32 am (UTC)
>>"word from our sponsor"(or a condensed version) needs to be translated into several other languages>>
that's a good idee!

I really agree with you inala!
I hope people will respect that!
and thanks so much for all your pics <3
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yamap_oukoku
Nov. 18th, 2009 06:26 pm (UTC)
RESPECT ~
It's sad to see other people taking credit for your work...
I'm thankful for your generous sharing! ^^
and I hope MANY people will read this and understand your POV
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 05:58 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
elizajet
Nov. 18th, 2009 08:05 pm (UTC)
I totally agree.

Your scans are probably some of the best I've ever seen and they are the first I look to because they are so nice.

I hope people can understand your POV, I really appreciate the work you put in for those of who don't have access to NEWS media, it's awesome.

inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 05:59 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

Yup, I'm not limiting who has access to these at all. I just ask that people don't try and look important in other forums by trying to take credit.
delaciel
Nov. 19th, 2009 12:37 am (UTC)
Hmmn.... It's sad to see people doing that to you...
Your scans are the best I've ever seen / found ♥ . Plus you're also so kind for sharing it without f-lock and everything...
I hope the people who take credit of your work read this and can appreciate you more. And I hope you feel a little bit better by wrote this post.....
Thanks for always sharing NEWS love with your beautiful scans ♥
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:00 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

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watashiwachiaki
Nov. 19th, 2009 02:38 am (UTC)
scanning and editing really takes time.. (I know bcoz Im part of an animation group and my work is to scan)..its a pity that some people are selfish and ignorant to take all your hard works and they receive the credit for it.. tsk tsk
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:00 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
dw9lives
Nov. 19th, 2009 04:30 am (UTC)
i'm sorry people are idiots. ♥

inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:01 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
tsuki_pinku
Nov. 19th, 2009 04:46 am (UTC)
hii!


i'm so very agree with what you have said.
and thank you very much for share with us!!

see you!! thanks! ♥~
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:01 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
arisa_draconis
Nov. 19th, 2009 06:31 am (UTC)
I agree.

I really hope that people will stop doing these things. I really hate seeing picture being watermarked D:
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

Yup, I really hate watermarks, cos unless you took the photos yourself, you're just trying to go "nah, nah" to other people, proving you've got it, and they can't have the nice pic.
needloveu
Nov. 19th, 2009 01:46 pm (UTC)
I agree.^^
and thank you for every file~~~~

^___________^,,

inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
luckystar_chan
Nov. 20th, 2009 05:59 am (UTC)
You are so Right!!!

And by the way... the work that you do with teh scans is just asewome..
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
xeryne
Nov. 21st, 2009 10:44 am (UTC)
I totally agree with you ^^

I have nothing else to add but thank you for your hard work! :D
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
akemi_paradise
Nov. 24th, 2009 01:00 am (UTC)
ARIGATOU
Thank you very much for your great job!! you are amazing, and always care of the news and their pics! And of course! you are right and I am total agree with you! I dont understand very well the english, but I understand the meaning! thank you for your time, for your well done and for sharing these things with everybody!
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Re: ARIGATOU
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
nya88_red
Nov. 24th, 2009 07:22 am (UTC)
Inala'san, nice to meet you, sorry to bother you. I don't know how to say it, but in short I do really thanks you for all the edit and scan of NEWS, I do really enjoyed them and kept them as my personal things, not for public, so really apprecite all your hardwork.. Hountouni.. arigatou.. !!
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 06:03 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

ivonnemcgruder
Nov. 24th, 2009 11:05 am (UTC)
i know how much of your precious time you devote to scanning. I am saving all your scans under your name so I never forget where I got them.

I am so sorry that somebody is doing this to you. Putting watermarks on YOUR scans, taking them for his own work.
That´s hideous.

But you have your devoted fans and defenders ^^
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:07 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

Sometimes there's little we can do put shine the light on what is out there. It's no surprise to me, but I just felt it was time for me to explain my position. Thanks.
heaven99
Nov. 24th, 2009 04:01 pm (UTC)
Hi. I'm always thankful to your work and generous sharing.
Your work is really great. And really greatest is scan. I will excite, and happiness.

I totally agree with you. hope that everyone will understand of your say...
Thank you for always sharing your beautiful and wonderful scans ♥♥♥
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:08 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
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shahi_reeves
Nov. 24th, 2009 08:50 pm (UTC)
awwwww i can understand ,, i really don't know what to say,, these people make me just speechless ,and break the spirit of anyone who want to shear something U_U
it's very sad really,,
i'm sorry i'm bad at this,,but i want you to know i hear you <3
*hugs* keep the spirit up ,ne ^^

PS: i hope you remember me ,we talked before ^^
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:09 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

Yes, I do remember ... thanks for your support.
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simple_tyx
Nov. 27th, 2009 12:50 pm (UTC)
Sorry for people that doing things like that to you. Somehow there are people who disrespectful like that. Or probably, ignorant. They know it's not right, but they will still do it. I hope they can read this and stop doing that.

Like everyone, I love your scans <3 And i feel thankful for the fact that u keep sharing it with us.
I hope u feel better by now. Take care ~~~♥
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:11 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

I'm feeling okay because I see these things all the time. But yes, I guess I did finally get to the point where I needed to say something ... but I really don't like the way a selfish few spoil it for the rest of us - and that happens in every corner of our lives.
x_shock_me_x
Nov. 27th, 2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
Uh hi ^^ (random person you don't know desu xD) I'm just commenting to say I TOTALLY agree. I'm all for fangirls uniting and all that but taking something you did and claiming it as their own? That's just STEALING. Especially when even after physically scanning, there's still a lot of work required
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:11 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.
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inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:17 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

People have encouraged me to do tiny watermarking, but I don't like it, and quite often people don't even change the name of the image, like this one, or they just add their blog name - which happens a lot on naver.

ps. the scanner is only the first part of the process ... I think it's the editing, plus I don't believe in giant scans at huge resolutions when we're just looking at them on our screens. I save my final images at 300dpi which is still more than is needed ... and I always end up shaking my head when people announce HQ next to their scans just because they're extra large. Quality is about the image itself, not the size, and I don't understand why you'd waste time making LQ scans anyway XD
faricsyung
Nov. 28th, 2009 01:07 am (UTC)
agreed wholeheartedly.

it's sad how good intentions of people who are willing to share are often abused.

some might just think it's a 'harmless sharing' but it'd be much better if 'sharing with etiquette' is practiced in the fandom.

thanks for sharing your effort and are open about it. =)
inala
Dec. 1st, 2009 07:19 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks ... and if you're curious I have added an example of one of the things people do.

It's just a fact of everyday life that the people who will do the right thing, think of others and not take advantage - they don't need a list of rules telling them what to do. Hopefully, some of the other kind of people will think twice if they know that the spotlight is shining and we can see them.
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